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has been just introduced as new Covert Task hero: <p>https://twitter.com/MAAInsiders/status/468827001789612033 </p>
</div></div>has been just introduced as new Covert Task hero: <p>https://twitter.com/MAAInsiders/status/468827001789612033 </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>Leojsaad wrote:
I'm really impressed at the number of people only looking forward for Shanna because of the way she looks. <p>If people continue to act like that, the stereotype of a woman being only sexual appeal in games or comics will never go away. </p><p>That is wrong. People should stop thinking and acting that way, because people who do that have as much brain as the dinosaurs Shanna faces. </p><p>We need some girls in this game and even in comics, movies, and everything else to represent that women are more than just treats for men's eyes. </p><p>Sure, some art may be a little provocative, but there are women out there stronger than a lot of men that show women aren't just toys. </p><p>Because the second someone writes "Beeeeewbs" on this Wiki, that shows we're going back to the Stone age. </p> </i></div>
<p>You can't hide biology brother. Repressing emotions is far more damaging than expressing and offending a random person. Political discussions should be left for the classroom and during educational moments not during a videogame. I'm widly into politics before anybody says otherwise. I just know my audience. </p>
I'm really impressed at the number of people only looking forward for Shanna because of the way she looks. <p>If people continue to act like that, the stereotype of a woman being only sexual appeal in games or comics will never go away. </p><p>That is wrong. People should stop thinking and acting that way, because people who do that have as much brain as the dinosaurs Shanna faces. </p><p>We need some girls in this game and even in comics, movies, and everything else to represent that women are more than just treats for men's eyes. </p><p>Sure, some art may be a little provocative, but there are women out there stronger than a lot of men that show women aren't just toys. </p><p>Because the second someone writes "Beeeeewbs" on this Wiki, that shows we're going back to the Stone age. </p> </i></div>
<p>You can't hide biology brother. Repressing emotions is far more damaging than expressing and offending a random person. Political discussions should be left for the classroom and during educational moments not during a videogame. I'm widly into politics before anybody says otherwise. I just know my audience. </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>Rilic wrote:
<div class="quote">Leojsaad wrote:
I'm really impressed at the number of people only looking forward for Shanna because of the way she looks. <p>If people continue to act like that, the stereotype of a woman being only sexual appeal in games or comics will never go away. </p><p>That is wrong. People should stop thinking and acting that way, because people who do that have as much brain as the dinosaurs Shanna faces. </p><p>We need some girls in this game and even in comics, movies, and everything else to represent that women are more than just treats for men's eyes. </p><p>Sure, some art may be a little provocative, but there are women out there stronger than a lot of men that show women aren't just toys. </p><p>Because the second someone writes "Beeeeewbs" on this Wiki, that shows we're going back to the Stone age. </p> </i></div>
You can't hide biology brother. Repressing emotions is far more damaging than expressing and offending a random person. Political discussions should be left for the classroom and during educational moments not during a videogame. I'm widly into politics before anybody says otherwise. I just know my audience. </div> <p>Well, when your "audience" is a bunch of sexist guys, it's kinda hard to make a point. And I don't think this is a huge political discussion. I was just expressing how pathetic it is to think of women as objects. Don't mix biology with sexism. There's a difference. </p>
<div class="quote">Leojsaad wrote:
I'm really impressed at the number of people only looking forward for Shanna because of the way she looks. <p>If people continue to act like that, the stereotype of a woman being only sexual appeal in games or comics will never go away. </p><p>That is wrong. People should stop thinking and acting that way, because people who do that have as much brain as the dinosaurs Shanna faces. </p><p>We need some girls in this game and even in comics, movies, and everything else to represent that women are more than just treats for men's eyes. </p><p>Sure, some art may be a little provocative, but there are women out there stronger than a lot of men that show women aren't just toys. </p><p>Because the second someone writes "Beeeeewbs" on this Wiki, that shows we're going back to the Stone age. </p> </i></div>
You can't hide biology brother. Repressing emotions is far more damaging than expressing and offending a random person. Political discussions should be left for the classroom and during educational moments not during a videogame. I'm widly into politics before anybody says otherwise. I just know my audience. </div> <p>Well, when your "audience" is a bunch of sexist guys, it's kinda hard to make a point. And I don't think this is a huge political discussion. I was just expressing how pathetic it is to think of women as objects. Don't mix biology with sexism. There's a difference. </p>
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<p>I'm not going to even get into how widly political feminism is. Also a historically accurate depiction of a pre-historic women is barely sexist. Kazar wears nothing too and can be argued as female fan fiction. So it goes both ways. Lets get back to the game now
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<div class="quote"><i>Leojsaad wrote:
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Well, when your "audience" is a bunch of sexist guys, it's kinda hard to make a point. And I don't think this is a huge political discussion. I was just expressing how pathetic it is to think of women as objects. Don't mix biology with sexism. There's a difference. </div> <p>If Shanna were real, I would agree that reducing here to boobed eye candy would be sexism. This is not a human being. This is a drawing, meant to be looked at. It's not reductive to say "I find this drawing appealing", although it is a little odd, I'll grant. Scolding people for things like this only serves to ostracize them from your cause and marginalize you. If they were treating a contributor on the wiki this way, I would be on your side. In this case, a simple "that's immature" to myself and other commenters is probably enough. </p>
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Well, when your "audience" is a bunch of sexist guys, it's kinda hard to make a point. And I don't think this is a huge political discussion. I was just expressing how pathetic it is to think of women as objects. Don't mix biology with sexism. There's a difference. </div> <p>If Shanna were real, I would agree that reducing here to boobed eye candy would be sexism. This is not a human being. This is a drawing, meant to be looked at. It's not reductive to say "I find this drawing appealing", although it is a little odd, I'll grant. Scolding people for things like this only serves to ostracize them from your cause and marginalize you. If they were treating a contributor on the wiki this way, I would be on your side. In this case, a simple "that's immature" to myself and other commenters is probably enough. </p>
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<p>If I really have to hear people commenting about sexism is correct, then I'm leaving this thread right now so I don't have to read stuff like "Beeeeewbs" again. Goodbye to all.
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<p>Man... if a beutiful girl (or a drawing of a beutiful girl) with few clothes showing her "goods" is Sexism,
</p><p>then a male Peacock with beautiful colors, showing his feather patterns is Sexism too.
</p><p>It's all about Biology.
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<p>I know! Let's argue about biology and women's rights on an unofficial wiki for a Facebook game!
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I know! Let's argue about biology and women's rights on an unofficial wiki for a Facebook game!</i></div>
<p>Indeed... we should be arguing about <span style="font-size:14px;">what to argue on a topic on a wiki, while someone will argue about this total arguing we're having here. Some will even argue that's not arguing by the "prime principles" of arguing. Or we should argue that there are absolutely no principles to argue in arguing? Or arguing about that is really arguing? Or just arguing about something that's not even a valid argument to argue?</span> </p><p>That's argueinception! </p><p>
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I know! Let's argue about biology and women's rights on an unofficial wiki for a Facebook game!</i></div>
<p>Indeed... we should be arguing about <span style="font-size:14px;">what to argue on a topic on a wiki, while someone will argue about this total arguing we're having here. Some will even argue that's not arguing by the "prime principles" of arguing. Or we should argue that there are absolutely no principles to argue in arguing? Or arguing about that is really arguing? Or just arguing about something that's not even a valid argument to argue?</span> </p><p>That's argueinception! </p><p>
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<p>Obviously, instead of bringing real world issues into an imaginary world, we should get back to what matters. The gender of symbiotes.
</p><p>...Back on track....I wonder when the new Covert Op will drop?
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<p><i>(Stan Lee) had the idea, and I think the names, for all three. He wanted to do some books that would have special appeal to girls. We were always looking for ways to expand our franchise. My idea ... was to try to get women to write them. ... I thought of my friend Carole Seuling, who had done a bit of writing for her ex-husband Phil in conjunction with his comic cons. I approached her to do the Shanna book because I knew she liked jungle comics and adventure comics. ... I put Ross Andru on as the Shanna artist [beginning with issue #2], with Vinnie Colletta inking to make Ross' Shanna look attractive</i>. - Marvel writer/editor Roy Thomas in 2007.
</p><p>Shanna was introduced alone with Night Nurse and Tigra as comics for girls. They were designed to show strong women doing heroic things for a female audience. I'm guessing it didn't work out quite like that, but they gave women a break into mainstream comics as authors, paving the way for folks like Ann Nocenti and Louise Simonson, among others. This was big idea, women first thinking. They needed to make her attractive probably because at the time Barbie, the main toy for girls was, if anything, more outrageously proportioned.
</p><p>Shanna has always been a strong female, either as a lead or a second with Ka-Zar. If guys ogle her, it happens. I don't get why anyone is bent about it, and the only person saying "Beewbs" is the guy accusing everyone of leering at the portrait art. Don't point a finger when there are three pointing back.
</p><p>I'm excited about Shanna because I much prefer the less popular, more experimental characters of the Marvel Universe to the Spider-Man and Wolverine knockoffs. With Anti-Venom, we now have three heroes and multiple villains who have the spider emblem on their chest. We have three heroes with healing factors and claws, and a few villains with the same. Time for the channel to change and some different stuff to come in. Hail Shanna the She-Devil.
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