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ALL POSTSKingpin GB Strategy Discussion
<p>So, let's see what you can do.
</p><p>For reference, here's what we did for Dracula .
</p><p>To get the ball rolling, I had a Bruising Fat Man. I ran Elsa, BK and blaster agent with my everyday setup (Cardinal, Rapier, N-Trope, Doom Lantern, Warbringer). Took him down to 32%
</p><p>Bruiser Kingpin applies a hit to your toons, that heals his toons for full health every turn. And, his goons are tacts (which is why I brought Black Knight... a little supression). I will confess, I don't really play BK that often, so had to figure him out on the fly. I think I could have taken Fat Willy down a bit more with better BK play. Also, if Elsa were fully leveled.
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<p>They were always going to nerf Gambit. Always. As soon as they made that flanking thingy that recharged his ammunition, they were going to nerf it.
</p><p>Similarly, they were always going to break up the no-stamina, no ammunition RocketNoir team. Always. Always.
</p><p>That they did both at once, and a couple other things shouldn't really be a surprise or a shock, since they have always done that. They don't seem to believe in a lot of documented little patches. They like to rewrite their mistakes a bunch at a time.
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<p>I also would have preferred they nerf Gambit in an alternate way that didn't hit him as bad. Losing the charges on counter-attacks makes him feel worse than he was pre-aiso. There's any number of other ways they could have fixed him. Raise his L2 stamina cost. Remove charges from follow-ups, but not counters. Change his follow-up to L2 or L6 or L9. Make his L2 a quick action instead of granting an extra turn.
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<p>Or maybe set his iso-to make L2 a QA? there's a lot of possibilities.... the idea of his L6 or L9 as a followup.... yeesh... no.
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<div class="quote"><i>Potkettleblack wrote:They like to rewrite their mistakes a bunch at a time. </i></div>
<p>And make new ones in the process: Signpost.
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<p>And make new ones in the process: Signpost.
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<div class="quote"><i>Marhawkman wrote:
.... the idea of his L6 or L9 as a followup.... yeesh... no.</i></div>
<p>I agree especially L6 sounds crazy, but it would still weaken him compared to pre-nerf. </p>
.... the idea of his L6 or L9 as a followup.... yeesh... no.</i></div>
<p>I agree especially L6 sounds crazy, but it would still weaken him compared to pre-nerf. </p>
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<p>Hmm. Satana + Channeling glove is nice.
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<p>BTW, I made a picture to demonstrate HOW nice.
http://marhawkman.deviantart.com/art/Bru3-1c-578030126
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<p>I don't think PvE UJ got nerfed, him and RR are still able to 100 to 0 KP. Although his Tact and Inf goons are quite annoying.
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I think they change really just made it so the counter/follow madness was not truely infinite and could only proc a few times each turn.
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<div class="quote"><i>AgentMarvel wrote:
I don't think PvE UJ got nerfed, him and RR are still able to 100 to 0 KP. Although his Tact and Inf goons are quite annoying.</i></div>
<p>I found RR/Noir and RR/UJ to be comparably effective to before when I faced them in the PreVP. </p>
I don't think PvE UJ got nerfed, him and RR are still able to 100 to 0 KP. Although his Tact and Inf goons are quite annoying.</i></div>
<p>I found RR/Noir and RR/UJ to be comparably effective to before when I faced them in the PreVP. </p>
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