nothing stops you from using both.
like its all a game (avengers lliance, not the thread)
whether u reply or not, this dont even affect ur life
take it from a "little teenager"
if ur relly getting mad over this, get a job and get a life
Nobody likes to be trolled, and sure as hell nobody needs to be told to get a life by somebody who, by his own admission, gets off by trolling others over a game in an online wiki-forum. People aren't getting mad over a game, they gave their opinion because that's what they were brought to do by the simple fact that this topic it's on a game-discussion board. After giving their opinion, or reading how others gave theirs, and seeing how you kept on with yours without so much as listening to others, they got mad for wasting their time trying to have a discussion when the topic treated was never up for discussion in the first place. Whether or not you realize this: you just wanted to preach on why deadpool should get an a-iso for his move and you were simply looking for somebody else who shared your desire and who would sustain your thesis; you never wanted a discussion and when you got one, you turned it personal, not to mention you also brought politics into the topic by having the bad taste of comparing yourself and your so-called idea to the president of the united states and an highly debated subject that has no place to be on a game-discussion forum.
I believe the best thing to do is:
1st. Look at his armory and see if his offensive setup is better than the defensive, bonus-wise.
2nd. Agent's items and defensive heroes can be decieving so don't even bother,I for one, apart from the last week of pvp, keep only the agent+colossus in defense with colossus with no iso-8 and my agent with the worst strategist suit there is and no useful or damaging item.
3rd. Stop trying to decide whether if he cheats or not through your sherlockian ways and report him nonetheless. Let the folks at playdom decide if he's a cheater or not. Keep in mind though that you shouldn't go accusing every folk that beats you with stats worse than yours or else you'll risk alienating the support for wasting their time on a witch hunt and when you'll really need their help they might not even read your ticket.
4th. We all know there are many ways around having worse stats in some meta but if the guy has less than 10 heroes, all of which kinda crappy and an armory full of bad items, maybe even some slots unfilled, and he stands in high adamantium, what's the hold up? Either he cheats or there is a mistake with his account, either way, playdom should be informed, make a couple screens and report the problem.
The W3 can't slot AISO on two of their attacks.
Deadpool needs more stuff like Warren Buffet needs more money. Or the average Deadpool fanboy needs to turn down some dates or stay inside more.
why not? even though it's a bad a-iso there is the 5 gold one which repleshes the party's vigor for their buffs. Or am I missing something? Still I back you up on the no need for deadpool to have any unnecessary buffs, be them a-iso or whatever.
I don't think you are leveraging your park properly based on my experience and the collective experience of my circle of friends who play the game.
That's all I have to say. This nonsense is too long for something that isn't in the game currently, and has no defined delivery date.
Everything I said was either implied or thought common knowledge in the previous post, I haven't added anything new in that long post of mine, I just explained it so that it would be impossible not to understand, but since you don't understand the short version and won't read the long one, there is not much I can do. And I'm sorry if by not reading my post you still were able to find it nonsense, unfortunately even though I try my best my english isn't top notch, since I've never been in a country where people speak it and nobody ever taught it to me, I had to learn it by myself with all the limitations this implies. I'm also sorry for not being able to make things clear in a concise manner, like you do, and often getting prolix but that's just how my forma mentis has become living in Italy and even though I try to think in english when I write in English I end up phrasing my thoughts in an overlong manner typical of the Italian phrasing.
P.S. BTW I can get over 2000 ratings with the current pvp and not play the last 3 days with the current volume I'm faced if I so decide, I don't think there is any need to better leverage my bonuses or to make them grow at a bigger pace.
P.P.S. Since you like to use slang, are familiar with it and don't like to read I guess I could summarize this post for you, to a single word: TL:DRetard(I found it in the same slang site I found your TL:DR as the right counter-salng to yours :P)
Oh, and by the way, English isn't my first language either, so no, I am not an "Angry, Egoistical American" as you'd probably call me.
Secondly, the reason parking is dumb is not because that's not the way the game is meant to be played - NO GAME is meant to be played that way. You're supposed to make the agent powerful as a character, because that's how the story goes. By focusing on PVP, you're losing what makes the game "fun" - the story, the PVE, the joy of not having overleveled weapons (poor Phoenix Flare), the beauty of 1 Gold per level and such. PVP doesn't matter - when the game stops being available (about 10 years or so from now), will you be proud and nostalgic about ADA in PVP, or will you be happy about experiencing this game's story and having the privilege of using all these great characters to save the world?
P.S. No one cares about what you can do with your rating, so you can go and stick it up your nose.
P.P.S. Since you're kinda dumb, I can tell you your pathetic attempt at mockery makes no sense whatsoever and is largely irrelevant to this discussion. Keep it to yourself, buster.
P.P.P.S. To paraphrase a quote by a great modern-day philosopher, "bro i warned about the reply button". If you can't finish your argument nicely and quickly, you need to rethink your argument and accept defeat.
P.P.P.P.S. it keeps happening
I haven't a bad grammar. The problem is in syntax and in thought structure, an English person expresses a thought in a different way than an Italian person does. This problem presents itself whenever I try to articulate a complex thought, it doesn't happen for example in French or Spanish since those languages both derive from Latin. It's something that isn't easy to change and it's close to impossible without leaving the country. It's not like my English is hard to understand or anything, as long as I keep to small concepts at least. But then again I can't be the judge of me so correct me if I'm wrong here.
'Still I don't like the way you are addressing me, and I'd have liked you'd have edited the topic to get rid of the insults instead of just saying you might have been too aggressive, if it was meant to be an apology however it is accepted.
@PKB As I said I had to google TL:DR and what came out was that it was used to troll nerds who wrote posts too long to bother reading. I therefore took it as an offense but It seems like I was misguided so I apologize for my hideous reply.
I don't think you are leveraging your park properly based on my experience and the collective experience of my circle of friends who play the game.
That's all I have to say. This nonsense is too long for something that isn't in the game currently, and has no defined delivery date.
How can you say that if you haven't even read the whole thing through?(I had to google TL:DR to understand your slang)
Everything I said was either implied or thought common knowledge in the previous post, I haven't added anything new in that long post of mine, I just explained it so that it would be impossible not to understand, but since you don't understand the short version and won't read the long one, there is not much I can do. And I'm sorry if by not reading my post you still were able to find it nonsense, unfortunately even though I try my best my english isn't top notch, since I've never been in a country where people speak it and nobody ever taught it to me, I had to learn it by myself with all the limitations this implies. I'm also sorry for not being able to make things clear in a concise manner, like you do, and often getting prolix but that's just how my forma mentis has become living in Italy and even though I try to think in english when I write in English I end up phrasing my thoughts in an overlong manner typical of the Italian phrasing.
P.S. BTW I can get over 2000 ratings with the current pvp and not play the last 3 days with the current volume I'm faced if I so decide, I don't think there is any need to better leverage my bonuses or to make them grow at a bigger pace.
P.P.S. Since you like to use slang, are familiar with it and don't like to read I guess I could summarize this post for you, to a single word: TL:DRetard(I found it in the same slang site I found your TL:DR as the right counter-salng to yours :P)
Just for the record @PKB I don't feel uncomfortable because I parked. If I hadn't my hero bonus would still be the same and that's the main thing so it's not like I feel like something will be taken from me, and I didn't do it in order to prey on poor low levels or whatever you go jabbing about and same goes for most sandbaggers I know. I took the only way to make a relatively safe higher league because such were the rules of the game. Since you sustain both this update and this preying jibberish then here on out you should feel like you'll be preying on those poor lower levels because well, you will by your standards, but that will be because those will be the rules of the game and it's just not fair holding it against anybody, except peraphs those who made the rules.
I don't think parkers are malicious jerks who say "MUAHAHAHAHAHA, I am going to build my account to prey upon the weak and avoid real competition." I've never said that, and if I've given that impression, it's only because I am understanding the complete logic behind people parking their agent.
It is vested self interest. You parked because it was the most efficient way to make it into higher leagues without all the muss and fuss that folks like me go through. I get that. You want to be able to leverage your bonuses and get ahead with them, as opposed to what unparked people do with their bonuses, which is leverage them to stay even with the competition.
Now, here's where I get with the "jibberish" (sic). IMPLICIT in your decision to park to make easier vibraniums and adamantiums is the preying upon faster leveling players who are not set up to leverage their bonuses. It is not your tacit intention, but it is the byproduct of parking that you will be preying upon those people, leveraging your greater time and slower leveling on people who cannot match your bonuses.
I don't blame any parker for making that decision. But it's pretty clear from the flow of the changes to PVP and the game at large, that Playdom believes that parking is not the way they would have people play the game. So, if this is the death knell for parkers (and I don't think this is it, tbh), so be it.
I'm sorry you take offense at my posts about level parkers. But, when you examine the results of your intentions, and what lies underneath, you can see why my objections are not just gibberish, they are an informed opinion that differs from your own.
I said I wouldn't go on on this topic so I'm deeply sorry for doing so but it seems like I haven't made my opinion clear enough. First: read again what I wrote, 'cause you are either not getting my point or too blinded trying to win a conversation that doesn't need winning to see it. I already said what follows either in or bethween the lines but I'll repeat it clearer: I respect your opinions singolarly taken but the two, on parking and this update don't align. If the advantage of parking is fair or not that's for each to decide, you decided it isn't and that it puts a player in the position of preying on others, but how can you make this belief go along with your other belief that this update is fair? The same people who may have had an hard time due to parking players will have it even worse facing people like you and other seasoned players trying to keep into diamond.
Just so that it stays on the record, getting adamantium through parking is just as hard as getting it at level 300, the only difference being the way the fight is played. A parker, no any low level player doesn't win adamantium by putting in lots of hours of play the last day of the competition, a parker puts them in in every single fight throughout the game a bunch of seconds there and there to get his agent killed, to keep the rest of the party alive and such, to decide which fight to play, to keep up the flight deck because that's the only way he gains exp on his heroes and gains silvers not having group bosses and not playing exping missions, all of these small sacrifices they all add up to as much or even more of the time you put the last day of pvp to keep or gain a league. See, at lower levels the volume of fights is significantly lower than at higher, the variety of items available is way lower due to time played and constant outlevelling, the roster we can choose from is smaller than yours, that forces a player to make decisions in advance, commit to a team because he has to decide where to spend his resources, who to level up, etc... The fight to get to adamantium at lower levels is just different than the one you have at higher levels. We also have people that have more armory pages that we do, even as a parking player getting into adamantium isn't an easy ride if you don't make all of the other decisions right because you are bound to stumble upon people with better bonuses, and not some 20% difference, even 50%, and that's as a parking player. If you wanted to put time into this game at lower levels and you wanted to compete in pvp you simply had to park or use gold(I'm not saying paying, even dropping some gold to unlock armory pages works). With this new update what before was hard but doable now gets simply impossible. So this time I won't tell but ask: How can you sustain a parking player preyed upon lower levels and that an higher level won't prey even more aggresively with this new update?
By the way playdom and any other company doesn't give squat about how you play as long as you pay, each and every choice ain't made to make the game more fair but to make it more profitable either in the short or long term, if incidentally the game gets more or less fair in the process that's for us to decide, so excuse me if their opinion on parking doesn't phase me, as a matter of fact playdom openly stated that people shouldn't play the game looking in advance at tasks, even less should they go and look into various drop chances and such but just play the game as it goes along... Given we are both on this wiki I guess our opinion on what playdom believes to be the right way to play the game is the same, we just don't care and simply play our own way.
My two statements aren't in contradiction because it's not a matter of choice. I could not choose to get to adamantium through your fuss because I can't, there is no fuss at lower levels, if you can get into adamantium, chances are you'll keep it. You define a parking player like this:
QUOTE FROM PKB: "You want to be able to leverage your bonuses and get ahead with them, as opposed to what unparked people do with their bonuses, which is leverage them to stay even with the competition."
That's not it PKB, a parking player untill level 150, unless he bought armory pages in advance, making himself a parking gold user, will be at a constant disadvantage to get into adamantium. A parker can't get to the point to leverage his bonuses if he doesn't at least buy armory pages below level 150, he will just park to stay even with the competition. Because the competition is made of gold users(meaning people who spent gold to have a non-permanent advantage like buying pages or armory items but without buying gold), gold buyers, other parkers and any mix of those. The only difference is that the volume was, and for now still is, less conspicous at lower levels especially at higher ratings, making the simple being even with the competition for adamantium an almost certain adamantium. Over level 150 things change and a parker if he parked from lower levels can very well leverage his bonuses the way you mean, but by that level a parker will have most heroes and at higher levels, he will be in fact able if he could leverage his bonuses before to still do so in the new system as much as any level 300 will after the update, because by then he will have played the same amount of time, getting to the same seniority. So you see if a person simply parked he did so just to stay even with the competition, if he didn't park and didn't use gold, he simply tried to overcome bonuses, and some people managed, I know I did my first pvp before I started parking, but it wasn't an even field, my first pvp, as long as I hit vibranium, I was one of the very few with lower stats, and once I hit adamantium I stayed there only because nobody took me down. The people this update will hit will be these people.
Parking players who only parked and did so enough to have significantly better bonuses than others in adamantium will not be hit too hard by this update. People who will be hit will be people who tried to overcome bonuses that will have bonuses impossible to overcome to face, people who parked to stay in the game, anybody lower than level 150, anybody who played less than a year. I'm not even too sure as many will gain from this update in terms of leagues gained, the only thing they'll gain will be the volume they will face to do so, which will be smaller(but not that smaller to get to adamantium), as the game will be made in silver and gold I don't think as many people will drop in lower silver making the overall number of higher leagues smaller. So somebody will gain from this update and you can even argue it will be fair, but if I'm right the number of people who will gain will be smaller than the number of those who will lose, but clearly if you think seniority is the right way to decide a tournament the overall sacrifice will be worth it. The problem is I never heard you say it outloud, you keep on saying this update will make it better for everybody but parkers, but that's simply untrue. You can believe it's fair, only if you admit to believing that the main reason a person should win in this game is seniority, otherwise the update won't make anything better, it will just change things, parkers will go away alright but only namely, some seasoned level 300 simply will take their places in the game experience of people affected negatively by parking, because parkers didn't affect gold, and that's the only league that will be really open to everybody at lower levels, while diamond will be open to those below the level cap and lucky people who'll be jumping up and down from gold and end up on the right side.
It simply does NOT avoid the debuffs, unless of course she dodges the attack when avoid debuffs projects on screen. When she didn't avoid burning/bleeding I thought maybe it was just paragons she woud avoid. She still didn't avoid weakened etc. and no I wasn't facing Pestilence, it happens all the time. Anyone else?!?!
had her since pvp, yeah it's broken
PS- I wonder how many times Pettyx has called a change the beginning of the end. This is not the first.
I don't know, may be so. I actually can't recall, so you are saying the end has already begun and this is just an increase of the slope? xD Just kidding, that wasn't the focus of my message. What I tried to point out is my opinion that these changes will make the game impossible to compete in for newer players, higher leagues-wise, and I'm not talking 2 weeks in, but even 6-8 months. I'm not saying it can't have its perks but it's gamechanging and only towards seniority which say what you will but states a clear movement of the company towards the existing and consolidated fanbase(Maybe new players won't feel that way and won't know better and this will have no marketing impact and it won't be the beggining of the end, but I repeat this is not important, it was just an observation of mine). Now IF you believe it's fair for this game to preclude higher leagues up untill 1-2 years playing the game, and beware it's a respectable point of view, then hell this is the best update ever, but if you are like me and think the right to win should be equal to sacrifice, hard work and tactics and not earned by mere seniority then it's only consequential finding the way this single level cap is proposed aberrant. The update it's not even here yet so this will be my last comment on the topic untill I get to see it first-hand because I like speculating but I don't like indulging in it. Said that I embrace this new update, because I like a good challenge and pvp was losing his charm but still I would like a side tournament or something where even new players have a chance to compete for the win because otherwise it's just not fun.
P.S. My solution to make this thing work would be to cut in half hero and armory bonuses making the gap between low levels with half roster and half armory pages and higher ups less conspicuos allowing at least a fighting chance.
P.P.S. Quote from PKB: "It's going to make the folks who have parked and preyed upon those new players very uncomfortable."
Just for the record @PKB I don't feel uncomfortable because I parked. If I hadn't my hero bonus would still be the same and that's the main thing so it's not like I feel like something will be taken from me, and I didn't do it in order to prey on poor low levels or whatever you go jabbing about and same goes for most sandbaggers I know. I took the only way to make a relatively safe higher league because such were the rules of the game. Since you sustain both this update and this preying jibberish then here on out you should feel like you'll be preying on those poor lower levels because well, you will by your standards, but that will be because those will be the rules of the game and it's just not fair holding it against anybody, except peraphs those who made the rules.
I like most changes. I can't say I like the level-capped tournament as explained in the topic, and beware this has nothing to do with me being a sandbagger, well maybe a little but it's not the main reason.
The way I read it now basically it goes like this:
Silver and Gold will be a walk in the park on offense for everybody, while being tough as hell on defense. But who gives, I bet nobody intends to stay long in gold or silver.. Diamond will stay the same, because diamonds are forever xD
Except only in name, since this capping thing will put the poor guy level 100 with his decent roster up against the seasoned level 300 with everybody, yes they will have the same level there but one will be missing armory pages and have a short roster while the other will have a full armory and and a much higher hero bonus. So for a new guy it would actually be better to be below the level cap in diamond, in order not to meet seasoned monsters, but once you hit the cap it's ka-put for who's been playing less than a year. In case a non-seasoned player manages to get to vibranium, cause he was below the level cap or just cause he had a really good offensive strategy there comes vibranium to kick him back down...
This my friends sounds as a good improvement only namely, fights will not be more fair. Those who didn't win because of sandbaggers still won't win. If before you had an advantage if you had played the game longer than your fellow levels now you get an advantage simply cause you played longer, New players will no longer have a chance at an higher league.
Now if you've read this far and you are sharp-minded you might see where this is going already but I'll make it clearer. A move like this will likely slightly increase the number of old players retained(or more likely keep it unchanged) while drastically lowering the number of new players and my friends this means but one thing: The game has taken the first step towards its closure. It won't be sudden but a move like this clearly against new coming players means they've given up on acquiring new players and will focus on the exsisting player-pool, also the single tournament will make the drop in players felt way less since matchmaking will have lots to take from. And there I hoped they had in mind to keep the game running forever like a wow or something and yet here comes the beginning of the squeeze what's left and leave it for dead typical of the downward spiral of online games, if nothing in a game like this we'll still have a slow fall and be able to enjoy most of it since the players interactions are marginal, but still it's kind of sad... ;(
I would like to state out that the topic was meant to establish who is the best pvp-rewarded hero, not the best heroes with whom to play pvp. This topic went completely astray...
Edited to add: The post is right here and still right under this post somebody manages to write off yet another off topic post... If you don't read anything else than titles and you like only the sound of your voice or better of your fingers tapping on the keyboard, maybe you should open a blog and not write in a forum.
Anyone wanna prove me this a bad idea?
you don't need somebody to tell, you already told yourself it's dumb, just don't give in to your dumber part. Best choice here is to save up, the SO it's probably 2 weeks away and with your roster chances are you'll be missing somebody, there is no rush to get somebody earlier snce I believe you must already have plenty to level up after the recent extension.
Personally I find convenient the trio gaunt caress, ex oblivione, no mercy while I think the memento mori is quite a waste, if you had the whole set or you were missing just the memento mori I would tell you to buy it, but that not being the case I would pass up the opportunity. But then again that's just my opinion. And its damage output after exploiting is really over the roof so you might regret not getting it later, too bad you are missing the caress, it puts you in a tough spot...
You are not.
Until, inevitably, they do something broken for Justin Woods' favorite character and make a specific one for Deadpool (to go with his two EISOs) that will let his L6 be Quick Action or Stealthy, or produce an additional set of debuffs, or some other OP nonsense.
Just to be fair, Justin Woods' favorite character isn't Deadpool, it's Spider-man, Deadpool is 2nd place, Also spidey got his 2 e-iso and already has his A-iso(my oh my you don't say, I can see a pattern here), but he never became OP as long as I can remember... Well maybe it's just because Marvel doesn't have the movie rights for him...
no you can't, you need to wait the delay so 1 action x turn, but the fact that all the actions are convertible means they would be quick not letting you waste your turn while using them and the first at least it's really worthwhile.
I'll admit that at first glance, Fandral doesn't seem quite as impressive as Hogun. But that L9... holy cow!
Why? Hogun seemed impressive?
That level 9 it's really holy cow though...unluckily everything else which is meh... plus it's useless by himself unlike hogun and he has no way of dealing direct damage.
Give it to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ARGH!!!
and the scroll isn't soo strong to be worried about; seeing the fact that the first few actions grant both teams advantages.....
except that currently it's the only item that allows you from preventing buff removals as far as I know making it awesome for any buff based teams especially if the tact suit will do as we believe it will and the thing will grant a quick x round
I like the update, I still have to see how it all works, they said we'll be able to drop some a-iso, I just looked over the store ones, not bad at all, especially some gold ones(the others are pretty plain, kinda boring)... I can see lots of possible revivals or new combo playstyles thanks to this, So me likey... :P Some already look kinda OP tough... We'll see nothing over the roof however, ME LIKEY, the timing isn't as bad as deadpool, and it's not a garantee that the bugs will be prohibiting,maybe just minor glitches and stuff... For the new level they lowered time requirements, smart move, I believe the second slot will come along with level 15, I just hope withall my heart it will be free gold-wise.
I guess if you're an old dude working at a mega corporation spending hundreds of dollars a month on a mobile game is like spending a wee bit more on electricity due to having a new lightbulb in your kitchen's ceiling.
When you see somebody like this be on the safe side and report them, it may not be so but chances are they exploited some cheat.